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The only podcast in the world dedicated to the future asset class called Space-as-a-Service (SPaaS).

Welcome to the #WorkBold podcast (downloaded in 90+ countries) where Caleb Parker, Founder of Bold, chats with innovators challenging the status quo to create a better world.

We learn from executives creating the future of commercial real estate.

Did you know that Space-as-a-Service (SPaaS) only represents 6-10% of the overall CRE market today, but is predicted to grow to 30% over the next decade? That level of growth will change CRE forever.

If you’re an asset manager, fund manager, property manager, landlord, property entrepreneur or investor, real estate agent or in corporate real estate...if you’re involved in commercial real estate in any way, SPaaS will affect you. So you need to be listening to this podcast!

#WorkBold Podcast Caleb Parker

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    • 5.0 • 30 Ratings

The only podcast in the world dedicated to the future asset class called Space-as-a-Service (SPaaS).

Welcome to the #WorkBold podcast (downloaded in 90+ countries) where Caleb Parker, Founder of Bold, chats with innovators challenging the status quo to create a better world.

We learn from executives creating the future of commercial real estate.

Did you know that Space-as-a-Service (SPaaS) only represents 6-10% of the overall CRE market today, but is predicted to grow to 30% over the next decade? That level of growth will change CRE forever.

If you’re an asset manager, fund manager, property manager, landlord, property entrepreneur or investor, real estate agent or in corporate real estate...if you’re involved in commercial real estate in any way, SPaaS will affect you. So you need to be listening to this podcast!

    What makes a building smart, and why do customers care?

    What makes a building smart, and why do customers care?

    In this episode of #WorkBold, your host Caleb Parker, talks to Sanjaya Ranasinghe Global Director of R&D at WiredScore. They discuss the company's journey and the evolving importance of digital connectivity in real estate. Celebrating its 10th anniversary, WiredScore has expanded worldwide, certifying buildings across 35 countries to ensure top-notch digital connectivity. The conversation delves into how landlords and tenants' perspectives on internet connectivity have shifted, highlighting how WiredScore's certifications - WiredScore and SmartScore - aid in enhancing the digital and smart technology infrastructure of buildings. They reflect on the changing landscape of office real estate, emphasising user experience and the role of technology in meeting environmental, social, and governance (ESG) goals. The episode also addresses the challenge of retrofitting buildings to meet current standards, the impact of connectivity on occupancy rates and rents, and the potential of technology to transform real estate into responsive, user-focused environments.

     
    Sanjaya Ranasinghe: LinkedIn | Website
    As leader of the R&D team at WiredScore, Sanjaya develops, implements, and reviews the criteria of WiredScore's scorecards, assessing best-in-class Internet connectivity in commercial buildings.


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    Sponsors:
    Headline Sponsor | Freshwave: Website | LinkedIn
    Freshwave is the connectivity infrastructure-as-a-service provider bringing MNOs, government, and real estate providers to work together in new ways. From stadiums and hospitals to skyscrapers and shopping centres, we provide mobile, 5G and Wi-Fi connectivity infrastructure all over the UK and Europe.
    Fortune Favours the Bold: Website | LinkedIn
    Bold is a coworking brand owned and operated by NewFlex.
    Future Proof Your Portfolio with NewFlex: Website | LinkedIn
    NewFlex delivers and manages a range of branded solutions for every type of building, in every type of location, for every type of occupier. Including the flexibility to develop your own brand. All enabled by flexible management contracts where we are invested in making money for you.
    Brave Corporation: Website | LinkedIn
    The next generation real estate company driving value through strategic asset repositioning to de-risk assets and increase NOI. 
    Launch Your Own Podcast: Website | LinkedIn
    ShoRunner is the leading podcast production and strategic content company for brands, organisations, institutions, individuals, and entrepreneurs. Our team sets you up with the right strategy, equipment, training, guidance and content to ensure you sound amazing while speaking to your niche audience and networking with your perfect clients. Get in touch jason@shorunner.com
     

    • 30 min
    When A 6 CAP Is No Longer A 6 CAP - Only The Paranoid (Office Investors) Survive

    When A 6 CAP Is No Longer A 6 CAP - Only The Paranoid (Office Investors) Survive

    In this episode of #WorkBold, your host Caleb Parker, talks to Michael Kovacs from Castleforge to discuss the transformation in office space investments towards flexible workspace solutions. Castleforge, traditionally a real estate investor and developer, has pivoted towards investing heavily in 'Flex' space, creating their operator known as Clockwise. Mike delves into the decision to start their own flex space operation, initially tested in Glasgow, which resulted in a highly successful full building conversion to Flex, achieving over 90% occupancy and significantly higher desk rates than anticipated. The success at Glasgow prompted Castleforge to scale the model across their portfolio and purchase assets with an underwriting for flex space from the outset. The discussion also touches on the broader challenges office investors face in generating consistent cash flows and the potential for Flex space to offer a more reliable income stream. Mike further discusses a white paper released by Castleforge, arguing that traditional valuation models for office space are outdated and that Flex spaces, despite their discounted valuation, may offer a closer match to their economic value, thus presenting a compelling investment proposition. The episode concludes with considerations on the future of office space valuations and the evolution of investor models towards accommodating the growing demand for Flex spaces.

    Castleforge White Paper: Only the Paranoid (Office Investors) Survive
     
    Michael Kovacs: LinkedIn | Website
    Prior to founding Castleforge in 2010, Michael worked at Westbrook Partners in London, where he was involved in transactions representing over £2bn of asset value for Westbrook's various funds in the UK, Europe and Asia across a diverse range of real estate investment types. Prior to Westbrook Partners, Michael worked at the Blackstone Group in New York.


    Don't forget to hit that subscribe button so you get each episode as it comes out.
     
    Sponsors:
    Headline Sponsor | Freshwave: Website | LinkedIn
    Freshwave is the connectivity infrastructure-as-a-service provider bringing MNOs, government, and real estate providers to work together in new ways. From stadiums and hospitals to skyscrapers and shopping centres, we provide mobile, 5G and Wi-Fi connectivity infrastructure all over the UK and Europe.
    Fortune Favours the Bold: Website | LinkedIn
    Bold is a coworking brand owned and operated by NewFlex.
    Future Proof Your Portfolio with NewFlex: Website | LinkedIn
    NewFlex delivers and manages a range of branded solutions for every type of building, in every type of location, for every type of occupier. Including the flexibility to develop your own brand. All enabled by flexible management contracts where we are invested in making money for you.
    Brave Corporation: Website | LinkedIn
    The next generation real estate company driving value through strategic asset repositioning to de-risk assets and increase NOI. 
    Launch Your Own Podcast: Website | LinkedIn
    ShoRunner is the leading podcast production and strategic content company for brands, organisations, institutions, individuals, and entrepreneurs. Our team sets you up with the right strategy, equipment, training, guidance and content to ensure you sound amazing while speaking to your niche audience and networking with your perfect clients. Get in touch jason@shorunner.com

    • 35 min
    Season 11 Trailer: Bold Visions, Brave Execution - Pioneering the Future of Office Real Estate

    Season 11 Trailer: Bold Visions, Brave Execution - Pioneering the Future of Office Real Estate

    Welcome to Season 11 of #WorkBold, with your host Caleb Parker, CEO of Brave Corp. This podcast exists to serve stakeholders in commercial real estate including investors, fund managers, landlords, operators agents, and brokers, by providing insights from industry experts on navigating the changing landscape of office real estate and the future of work.
    Season 11 is sponsored by Freshwave, the champions of connectivity ensuring your mobile phone signal is strong in your offices.
    Grab your popcorn and tune into our preview of what’s to come over the next 10 weeks. 
    Don't forget to hit that subscribe button so you get each episode as it comes out.
     
    Sponsors:
    Headline Sponsor | Freshwave: Website | LinkedIn
    Freshwave is the connectivity infrastructure-as-a-service provider bringing MNOs, government, and real estate providers to work together in new ways. From stadiums and hospitals to skyscrapers and shopping centres, we provide mobile, 5G and Wi-Fi connectivity infrastructure all over the UK and Europe.
    Fortune Favours the Bold: Website | LinkedIn
    Bold is a coworking brand owned and operated by NewFlex.
    Future Proof Your Portfolio with NewFlex: Website | LinkedIn
    NewFlex delivers and manages a range of branded solutions for every type of building, in every type of location, for every type of occupier. Including the flexibility to develop your own brand. All enabled by flexible management contracts where we are invested in making money for you.
    Brave Corporation: Website | LinkedIn
    The next generation real estate company driving value through strategic asset repositioning to de-risk assets and increase NOI. 
    Launch Your Own Podcast: Website | LinkedIn
    ShoRunner is the leading podcast production and strategic content company for brands, organisations, institutions, individuals, and entrepreneurs. Our team sets you up with the right strategy, equipment, training, guidance and content to ensure you sound amazing while speaking to your niche audience and networking with your perfect clients. Get in touch jason@shorunner.com

    • 4 min
    Should we redefine value creation in office real estate?

    Should we redefine value creation in office real estate?

    Connect with the WorkBold Podcast Team:
    • Host Caleb Parker: LinkedIn
    • Collaboration Partner Morgan Pierstorff: LinkedIn
    Summary: In this episode of the #WorkBold Podcast, host Caleb Parker sits down with Markus Wiedenmann, a real estate expert and passionate advocate for sustainability. The discussion unfolds at the Young Leaders Forum at ULI, offering a unique perspective from the 31st floor of an office tower in Madrid. Marcus shares insights on the evolving landscape of real estate, emphasising the increasing complexity of the industry beyond traditional metrics. The conversation delves into the crucial role of sustainability, the transformation of real estate into a technical field, and the necessity of redefining value creation.
    Takeaways:
    Sustainability and Energy Efficiency: Marcus underscores the urgent need to focus on making existing buildings energy-efficient to combat emissions. The conversation highlights the broader expertise required, including understanding energy production methods and building insulation.
    Optimism for the Future: Marcus expresses optimism about the future of real estate, emphasising the shift from a simple business model to a more complex, technical, and emotionally driven industry. He sees the younger generation as natural drivers of change in this evolving landscape.
    Prop Tech Investment Insights: Marcus shares valuable advice for property companies looking to invest in PropTech. He suggests engaging in conversations with industry players to identify inefficiencies and problems before developing solutions, emphasising the importance of understanding market needs.
    Space as a Service: Marcus discusses the concept of providing "space as a service" and the challenges posed by competing agendas and tax regulations. He highlights the necessity of structuring solutions collaboratively to deliver enhanced services to tenants.
    Connect with today’s guest: 
    • Markus Wiedenmann on LinkedIn
    • Art Invest Website
    Connect with the WorkBold Podcast Team: 
    • Host Caleb Parker: LinkedIn
    • Collaboration Partner Morgan Pierstorff: LinkedIn
    Sponsors:
    NorNorm: Website | LinkedIn
    NORNORM is a subscription-based furnishing model, letting your business adapt to the needs of tomorrow. Beautiful, affordable and fully circular. NorNorm's vision for the workspace of the future is simple. Place circularity at the core and demonstrate how this is better for business, people and the planet. By embracing NorNorm, real estate can drastically produce CO2 emissions and waste production, driving us closer to a greener future.
    Fortune Favours the Bold: Website | LinkedIn
    Bold merges property management & Space-as-a-Service to help office customers grow faster and drive asset value. Bold is a real estate brand owned and operated by NewFlex.
    Future Proof Your Portfolio with NewFlex: Website | LinkedIn
    NewFlex delivers and manages a range of branded solutions for every type of building, in every type of location, for every type of occupier. Including the flexibility to develop your own brand. All enabled by flexible management contracts where we are invested in making money for you.
    Launch Your Own Podcast:
    A Podcast Company is the leading podcast production and strategic content company for brands, organisations, institutions, individuals, and entrepreneurs. Our team sets you up with the right strategy, equipment, training, guidance and content to ensure you sound amazing while speaking to your niche audience and networking with your perfect clients. Get in touch jason@apodcastcompany.com
     

    • 28 min
    Do Dynamic And Diverse, Multi-Tenant Buildings Have The Edge On Static Single-Let Assets?

    Do Dynamic And Diverse, Multi-Tenant Buildings Have The Edge On Static Single-Let Assets?

    Connect with the WorkBold Podcast Team:
    • Host Caleb Parker: LinkedIn
    • Collaboration Partner Morgan Pierstorff: LinkedIn
    Summary: In this episode of the Workbook Podcast, host Caleb Parker sits down with Boudewijn Ruitenburg, the COO of Edge Technologies, a real estate development company. With 15 years of experience in shaping cities, Boudewijn shares insights into the challenges and opportunities in the current real estate landscape. From redefining office spaces to creating vibrant, community-driven environments, Edge is at the forefront of transforming traditional real estate into dynamic, tech-infused hubs.
    Takeaways:
    The Evolution of Office Spaces: It's important to create attractive, flexible environments that motivate rather than mandate employees to come to the office.
    Tech-Driven Building Management: Boudewijn explains how their living, breathing tech is integrated into their buildings, creating smarter, more sustainable spaces.
    Sustainability Challenges: Sustainability is a key challenge and opportunity. While many commit to ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) principles, the industry lacks hands-on execution skills.
    Community Building and Like-Mindedness: Boudewijn stresses the need for diverse, multi-tenant buildings that foster collaboration and innovation among different companies, and the importance of creating communities within office buildings.
    Connect with today’s guest: 
    • Boudewijn Ruitenburg on LinkedIn
    • Edge Website
    Connect with the WorkBold Podcast Team: 
    • Host Caleb Parker: LinkedIn
    • Collaboration Partner Morgan Pierstorff: LinkedIn
    Sponsors:
    NorNorm: Website | LinkedIn
    NORNORM is a subscription-based furnishing model, letting your business adapt to the needs of tomorrow. Beautiful, affordable and fully circular. NorNorm's vision for the workspace of the future is simple. Place circularity at the core and demonstrate how this is better for business, people and the planet. By embracing NorNorm, real estate can drastically produce CO2 emissions and waste production, driving us closer to a greener future.
    Fortune Favours the Bold: Website | LinkedIn
    Bold merges property management & Space-as-a-Service to help office customers grow faster and drive asset value. Bold is a real estate brand owned and operated by NewFlex.
    Future Proof Your Portfolio with NewFlex: Website | LinkedIn
    NewFlex delivers and manages a range of branded solutions for every type of building, in every type of location, for every type of occupier. Including the flexibility to develop your own brand. All enabled by flexible management contracts where we are invested in making money for you.
    Launch Your Own Podcast:
    A Podcast Company is the leading podcast production and strategic content company for brands, organisations, institutions, individuals, and entrepreneurs. Our team sets you up with the right strategy, equipment, training, guidance and content to ensure you sound amazing while speaking to your niche audience and networking with your perfect clients. Get in touch jason@apodcastcompany.com
     

    • 19 min
    Can You Build a Real Estate Brand in the Shifting Global Landscape?

    Can You Build a Real Estate Brand in the Shifting Global Landscape?

    Connect with the WorkBold Podcast Team:
    • Host Caleb Parker: LinkedIn
    • Collaboration Partner Morgan Pierstorff: LinkedIn
    Summary: In this episode of the Workbook Podcast, host Caleb Parker sits down with Rohan Sikri, CEO of Xander Group, a prominent figure in the world of private equity real estate. Rohan shares insights on the evolving dynamics of global investments, the changing nature of office real estate, and the crucial role of branding in today's real estate market. From the impact of geopolitical shifts to the transformation of office spaces into B2C experiences, Rohan provides a forward-looking perspective that challenges traditional investment strategies.
    Takeaways:
    • The Shift to a Less Global World: Rohan emphasises the noticeable trend towards more localised investments and the need for investors to adapt to a world that is becoming less globally connected.
    • Office Real Estate Evolution: The discussion delves into the changing landscape of office real estate, emphasising the importance of considering factors like geography, user experience, and brand differentiation in modern investment strategies.
    • Brand Building in Real Estate: Rohan highlights the increasing significance of branding in the real estate industry, particularly in office spaces evolving from B2B to B2C. The discussion explores how brands in real estate are not just about logos but about delivering a consistent experience that resonates with tenants and clients.
    • Two Businesses, One Vision: Rohan emphasises the need for vertical alignment between the investment management business and the operating brand, acknowledging that they are distinct yet interconnected entities. The discussion provides valuable insights for investors looking to balance operational excellence and brand recognition.
    • Optimism Amid Challenges: Despite the challenges posed by a shifting global landscape, Rohan remains optimistic about the real estate industry. He sees an innovative and passionate community capable of finding solutions and believes that good portfolios are built even in challenging times.
    Connect with today’s guest: 
    • Rohan Sikri LinkedIn
    • Xander Group Website
    Connect with the WorkBold Podcast Team: 
    • Host Caleb Parker: LinkedIn
    • Collaboration Partner Morgan Pierstorff: LinkedIn
    Sponsors:
    NorNorm: Website | LinkedIn
    NORNORM is a subscription-based furnishing model, letting your business adapt to the needs of tomorrow. Beautiful, affordable and fully circular. NorNorm's vision for the workspace of the future is simple. Place circularity at the core and demonstrate how this is better for business, people and the planet. By embracing NorNorm, real estate can drastically produce CO2 emissions and waste production, driving us closer to a greener future.
    Fortune Favours the Bold: Website | LinkedIn
    Bold merges property management & Space-as-a-Service to help office customers grow faster and drive asset value. Bold is a real estate brand owned and operated by NewFlex.
    Future Proof Your Portfolio with NewFlex: Website | LinkedIn
    NewFlex delivers and manages a range of branded solutions for every type of building, in every type of location, for every type of occupier. Including the flexibility to develop your own brand. All enabled by flexible management contracts where we are invested in making money for you.
    Launch Your Own Podcast:
    A Podcast Company is the leading podcast production and strategic content company for brands, organisations, institutions, individuals, and entrepreneurs. Our team sets you up with the right strategy, equipment, training, guidance and content to ensure you sound amazing while speaking to your niche audience and networking with your perfect clients. Get in touch jason@apodcastcompany.com
     

    • 26 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
30 Ratings

30 Ratings

SmiffCakes ,

Super interesting!

It’ll be interesting to hear the different takes on how offices utilize their space, as some do it well and others do not. Can’t wait to dissect the upcoming episodes!

Duke Long ,

Space As A Service

Spectacular content and they mentioned me so, 5 stars all around.And yes Antony I did invent it!

GogiTLV ,

Off to a great start!

Great to hear a serious discussion about the future of office space and space-as-a-service by two people who spent a lot of time researching this topic and trying to reinvent the industry from within. A great start to this new podcast!

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