Powerful and emotional. Such an educational piece that can empower parents across the US. Both cases had obvious discrimination and it shows it is on all sides regardless of what color you are.

Very well done! I sobbed throughout this podcast, both families were wronged on such a deep level (Butlers more so due to systematic racism). It was heartbreaking and made you realize how one accident could cause such rippling devastation. Sending healing and positive thoughts to each family.

This show is so manipulative it makes me cringe. Can’t do it.

So let’s just be super clear: this is an incredibly important story about families who have found themselves in a nightmare fighting against the government to be able to keep their own children. The reporter (Mike) does a FANTASTIC job, I really appreciated his tone and sincerity during the reporting. By episode 5 I was very sympathetic with both families - and others who may find themselves in this position. Family “A” is white, and the parents are accused of harming the children by black CPS agents. This family recorded everything, hired a great lawyer, and won the lottery with a great and understanding judge. Family “B” is black, and the parents are accused of harming the children by CPS also. This family also hired a great lawyer, had CPS on their side saying “we actually changed our minds and want to drop this case now,” and yet had a judge with a terrible attitude who had no interest in risking a “wrong” verdict and allowing the kids to go back home. In the end both families get their kids back. Somehow, the conclusion of the show, and even Mike himself buys this nonsense - he says “I’m a middle class college educated white guy” - is that it is worse if you’re black. So in the end, what matters isn’t that CPS is an extremely problematic way to try to protect kids, it needs reforms, our court system is broken and needs reform, we need better appellate law, etc - no none of that matters, the main problem is that it’s worse if you’re black. That’s the conclusion of the show. Like Mike… did NBC make you do this? Talking about George Floyd? I mean it’s just nonsense dude. The problem is the government vs. EVERYBODY, not the government vs. black people. Everybody suffers in a system like this.

I honestly have to admit it never even crossed my mind that anything like this could happen so hearing about all this has been very eye opening and very informative. Would recommend this podcast to anyone and everyone. It’s an extremely important podcast. Cant rate it high enough.

These are the kind of conversations and experiences people need to be having. Thank you for investigating this.

You just had to make it political. Things didn’t change because a “democratic” judge was elected. They changed because of pressure, mostly streamlined from another judge, who was Republican. Funny how you don’t mention the political leanings of the CPS workers, who are democrats. Or the parents, or the lawyers, et al. Just the one place you could insert an out of place jab. So sick of this nonsense. I am totally appalled by this story and glad the CPS corruption (democrats) was brought to light, and would have given 5 stars. But you just had to insert the brainwashed lies. Disgusting. America sees through this, and we’re over it.

Wow. What a story. I can’t unhear these poor parents’ stories. Especially how Chandra and her family were treated differently on account of race. Just heartbreaking with a happy(ish) ending.

This is the first podcast that has made me ugly cry. Hearing those babies crying and their parents so upset, my heart literally broke. I can’t even believe what I just listened to. I could not move for 6 episodes. Wonderfully told.

Incredibly well told. Heartbreaking and infuriating at the same time