49 min
The Short-Form Video Wars: TikTok vs Shorts vs Reels (with Tati Cirisano) Trapital
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Short-form video has exploded in popularity the past three years, buoyed by TikTok. Copycat apps and features are now the norm across social media sites — Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, and Instagram. MIDiA analyst Tati Cirisano joins me on this episode to break down the ongoing war between short-form video’s main players.
The music industry is certainly keeping a close eye on the battle. Short-form video has been a boon for music discovery. Though, many music execs would also argue music has played a big factor in the rise of these platforms, and the industry wants to better monetize that.
Tati and I covered all this and more on the show. Here’s everything we hit on:
[02:59] Vine paved the way for short-form video
[05:56] TikTok filled void in social media
[06:53] Factors behind TikTok’s success
[10:19] TikTok is an entertainment platform, not social
[13:20] Potential pitfalls for TikTok
[23:10] YouTube’s biggest advantages
[25:53] Overlap between YouTube’s short-form and long-form audiences
[29:37] Facebook and Instagram Reels are picking up steam
[35:19] Instagram Reels more natural to the platform than YT Shorts
[35:35] Meta’s advertising is both a pro and a con
[36:39] Active creator vs. passive watcher user bases
[38:35] In what scenario does TikTok lose top spot in short-form video war?
[41:50] Best platform for artists?
[43:08] Best platform for record labels?
[44:05] Best monetized platform?
[47:11] Will there be a new form of content consumption in the next five years?
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Host: Dan Runcie, @RuncieDan, trapital.co
Guests: Tati Cirisano, @tatianacirisano
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TRANSCRIPT
[00:00:00] Tatiana Cirisano: One of my pros to talk about something that I've just, I don't know if this is still true, but something that I've heard from marketers, music marketers in the past is that, Instagram just has more trust with brands than TikTok and other platforms that are new because they've been using it for so long.
[00:00:13] They know what the deal is like. It just has, better relationships in that respect. but if that's also leading to more ads on the platform, then it's kind of a pro and a con.
[00:00:42] Dan Runcie: All right, today we have a jam packed episode that is about the short form video wars, which platform will come out on top. And I'm joined by none other than Tati Cirisano from Video Research. Welcome.
[00:00:55] Tatiana Cirisano: Thanks Dan. Good to be back. Thanks for entertaining another rant of mine,
[00:01:00] Dan Runcie: No, this is good. And with what you write about what you cover, you're the perfect person to have this conversation with. There has been so much focus as anyone listening to this podcast, who knows about the influence of short form video, what it does for discovery, for music, for artists, how record labels and all these companies are tackling it.
[00:01:19] Now we have several companies that are vying for that spot with similar but different products. But before we jump into TikTok, YouTube, and Instagram, I feel like we gotta give props where it is and give a shout out to Vine because I don't know if we were to be here if it weren't for Vine paving the way, so, oh, gone too soon.
[00:01:41] Tatiana Cirisano: you're giving me flashbacks to the Water Malone guy. I don't know if anyone else is gonna remember that, but the specific things that went viral on that platform. Oh God,yeah. We have to give the shout out to Vine.
[00:01:53] Dan Runcie: It was the perfect example of constraints, breeding, creativity, six, seven, second videos, and pe
Short-form video has exploded in popularity the past three years, buoyed by TikTok. Copycat apps and features are now the norm across social media sites — Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, and Instagram. MIDiA analyst Tati Cirisano joins me on this episode to break down the ongoing war between short-form video’s main players.
The music industry is certainly keeping a close eye on the battle. Short-form video has been a boon for music discovery. Though, many music execs would also argue music has played a big factor in the rise of these platforms, and the industry wants to better monetize that.
Tati and I covered all this and more on the show. Here’s everything we hit on:
[02:59] Vine paved the way for short-form video
[05:56] TikTok filled void in social media
[06:53] Factors behind TikTok’s success
[10:19] TikTok is an entertainment platform, not social
[13:20] Potential pitfalls for TikTok
[23:10] YouTube’s biggest advantages
[25:53] Overlap between YouTube’s short-form and long-form audiences
[29:37] Facebook and Instagram Reels are picking up steam
[35:19] Instagram Reels more natural to the platform than YT Shorts
[35:35] Meta’s advertising is both a pro and a con
[36:39] Active creator vs. passive watcher user bases
[38:35] In what scenario does TikTok lose top spot in short-form video war?
[41:50] Best platform for artists?
[43:08] Best platform for record labels?
[44:05] Best monetized platform?
[47:11] Will there be a new form of content consumption in the next five years?
Listen: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | SoundCloud | Stitcher | Overcast | Amazon | Google Podcasts | Pocket Casts | RSS
Host: Dan Runcie, @RuncieDan, trapital.co
Guests: Tati Cirisano, @tatianacirisano
This episode was brought to you by trac. Learn more about how artists can bring web2 and web3 together for their fans at trac.co
Enjoy this podcast? Rate and review the podcast here! ratethispodcast.com/trapital
Trapital is home for the business of music, media and culture. Learn more by reading Trapital’s free memo.
TRANSCRIPT
[00:00:00] Tatiana Cirisano: One of my pros to talk about something that I've just, I don't know if this is still true, but something that I've heard from marketers, music marketers in the past is that, Instagram just has more trust with brands than TikTok and other platforms that are new because they've been using it for so long.
[00:00:13] They know what the deal is like. It just has, better relationships in that respect. but if that's also leading to more ads on the platform, then it's kind of a pro and a con.
[00:00:42] Dan Runcie: All right, today we have a jam packed episode that is about the short form video wars, which platform will come out on top. And I'm joined by none other than Tati Cirisano from Video Research. Welcome.
[00:00:55] Tatiana Cirisano: Thanks Dan. Good to be back. Thanks for entertaining another rant of mine,
[00:01:00] Dan Runcie: No, this is good. And with what you write about what you cover, you're the perfect person to have this conversation with. There has been so much focus as anyone listening to this podcast, who knows about the influence of short form video, what it does for discovery, for music, for artists, how record labels and all these companies are tackling it.
[00:01:19] Now we have several companies that are vying for that spot with similar but different products. But before we jump into TikTok, YouTube, and Instagram, I feel like we gotta give props where it is and give a shout out to Vine because I don't know if we were to be here if it weren't for Vine paving the way, so, oh, gone too soon.
[00:01:41] Tatiana Cirisano: you're giving me flashbacks to the Water Malone guy. I don't know if anyone else is gonna remember that, but the specific things that went viral on that platform. Oh God,yeah. We have to give the shout out to Vine.
[00:01:53] Dan Runcie: It was the perfect example of constraints, breeding, creativity, six, seven, second videos, and pe
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