In this second episode of The Water Ski Podcast, Matteo interviews Ashley Stevens, the President of the Clemson Tigers Water Ski Team. Some of the things they touch on in this interview include:

• The structure and format of the Water Sports Club at Clemson University
• How Collegiate Water Skiing works and why it is so much fun
• Recent successes and challenges the Clemson Water Ski Team has been facing.
• and some more

Keep up with the Clemson Tigers Water Ski Team by checking out their website:
https://www.clemsonwatersports.com

and consider a donation to their ski club:
https://cualumni.clemson.edu/give/water-ski

Also, you can check out their very well-managed Instagram account here:
https://www.instagram.com/clemsonski/

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Matteo Luzzeri [00:59]:
Alright. Welcome to the second episode of The Water Ski podcast.
Before I introduce my first interview for this podcast I would like to thank everyone who has subscribed so far whatever you have. If it's iTunes or Spotify, Stitcher whatever you get your podcast I've been submitting this as much as I can to all the venues and apps and that's because the goal of this is to hopefully spread the word about the sport and also thank you to all that have already donated. I've only done a intro episode, kind of claiming what I'm planning on doing and to all of you who came in and donated some money while it's much appreciated. I've already been able to buy some new recording gear which is on its way to hopefully enhance the quality of these podcasts. So, this week I had a chance to interview Ashley Stevens, who is a mechanical engineering major at Clemson University and she's the current president of their ski team and the reason why I wanted to interview her is that the Clemson Tigers have been climbing up the rankings of collegiate water skiing for the last three or four years and her being the current president and a senior, she has lived through that really exponential growth of the team and I thought it would be a good opportunity about hearing the story which I was very curious about and also to talk about collegiate scheme. I am firmly convinced that it's a great maybe one of the greatest part of water skiing worldwide and a great way to promote the sport to young people and also these young people eventually will get into the job market and hopefully we'll be continuing to ski and bring some friends along the way. So, without any further you here’s the interview with Ashley from Clemson Tigers Water Ski Team Alright. Well Ashley welcome to the podcast.
So nice to have you for our first interview and I'm stoked to have you here because I've been following the Clemson water ski team for a while now and before we get in to talking about your team and what you guys have been doing there why don't you introduce yourself to the audience and see who you are and what you've been up to lately?
Ashley Stevens
Well I am Ashley Stevens and I go to Clemson University which is why we want to be here. I'm from West Palm Beach right by Okie Healy. Originally I was born in Pennsylvania. So, I grew up skiing on a river before coming down and getting spoiled and just all of a sudden.

ML [04:05]:
Right. Both of my parents grew up skiing. My dad was a bare footer or my mom was [Inaudible at 04:09-04:10] so its kind of opposite ends of the spectrum and somehow they met and I just grew up skiing in her arms and continued on my own two feet.
ML [04:05]:
There you go. What, what made you choose the three events over barefooting? Or do you barefoot as well?
AS
I know how to barefoot but I haven't. I think I've done one there for competition when I was really young up in Pennsylvania. Ummm… actually before I started college I been there for maybe one or two years but it was mostly just so long because I played volleyball as well.
ML [04:42]:
Ahan
AS
The time commitment can only do so much in a day
ML [04:46]:
Right.
AS
But the team score three event for women’s definitely helps when I first came into Clemson there is just a handful of us that were on the women's team we didn't usually have full women's team at any each one event.
Ummmm…..So, ok you have to do regionals and Nationals and after that I was just kind of hooked and kept going.
ML [05:07]:
There you go there you go and when did you join the team?
AS
My first year was Fall 2016
ML [05:13]:
2016.So, are you a senior?

AS
I am but Clemson has this awesome program where I was on co-op this from January to May and it adds on a year. So, while this is technically my last year, and it's the last year of eligibility I still have one more year of school.
ML [05:32]:
Okay. okay interesting and what is your degree what are you going for?
AS
I have a mechanical engineering program or I'm going with my mechanical engineering degree with a business minor.
ML [05:32]:
Wow. Yeah solid three. Okay ummmm…. So, you have been there for I guess four years, three and a half to four years. So, I think [Inaudible word at 05:56] to talk with you because you probably saw the really exponential growth of this team in the last three or four years So, why don't you tell me a little bit where the team was when you showed up. You really said there wasn't like a full 3 event women's team and umm….how things progressed all the way until today?
AS
Yes. So, I first came in there was two girls that umm… that I kind were closer with and we are the main three and we had a few others that just came in and out to certain tournaments. Umm… but three out of five for a tournament with only two of us always three venting doesn't really get a huge woman score. Team score overall
ML [06:40]:
Right
AS
And now were competing for the top spots for our women's team and our guy’s team. So, it's, it's kind of been the two extremes going from just a few to having an abundance of skiers who just want to learn and be able to go to nationals for our team but our team overall started actually in 1984. So, this is our thirty fifth year
ML [07:05]:
Wow
AS
While being around.
ML [07:05]:
Wow
AS
I believe there are only one or two other schools that's been around as long as we have.
ML [07:12]:
Yeah, yeah I know that's a that's a long time being around you know and so some of our listeners may not know what collegiate skiing is and I'm sure we can educate them a little bit about it. But why don't you start explaining like how you be competing collegiate skiing. What are the rules? Ummm… How the whole form up goes?
AS
So, you basically just take traditional skiing and your slalom your check and your jump and then instead of it being individual it's the only time or one of the only times where water skiing is to be a team sport and get a cheer on everyone on your team. So yeah the top five skiers per an event in her gender say you can have anywhere from ummm…ten. So, five women five men who just do all three events to having one person who's a single event skier for all those positions. So, it could get two big team but then also gets expensive at the same time because there's no way the sport is inexpensive in the least.
ML [08:15]:
Right
AS
[Inaudible word at 08:16] definitely opens up the doors to a whole new world. It's, it's a whole different family that's out there. That just wants to support each other and I've seen people who weren't in their freshman year and now are in the top 10 percent in all three events just because they started collegiate.
ML [08:15]:
Wow.
AS
So, yeah it's definitely a place where the sport can grow and where we can hopefully retain them after they graduate as well. Umm… but that's definitely the main difference is having a team over individual and of course you still have your individual placement within every tournament ummm… even against your teammates. But overall it's, it's a team event.


ML [08:59]:
Right, Right and I think it's a true team event right. Because there's some tournament's around the world like say the world championships or the Pan American championships where you have, you represent your country and then they take the top three overall scores and they this they compiled them and then they decide which team is first or second and it really comes down to performance whereas in collegiate it's just placement. Right?
AS
It is.
ML [09:29]:
So, if you have 60 people like 60 women trekkers number one bring 600 point to their team, second brings five ninety, third 580 and so forth. Right?
AS
Yes, it definitely utilizes everyone's on a team. So, even if you may be the lowest score, if you just set aside slide, show you beat out about five people you're still getting quite a few points for the team placement overall
ML [09:56]:
Which I think it's a, it's a great thing about collegiate skiing and I don't know about you guys but back when I was doing collegiate skiing we would always try to find those lumps. Right? So, those points in tricks or those meters in Jump or feet. Sorry, more [Inaudible word at 10:13] where you knew you had like I don't know 15 people potentially say yet I don't know 2F 28 off. So, you knew if you get that third ball that would be like 200 points more right?
AS
Yeah just because you know you're reading out that whole long Oh, yeah it's, that’s still happens.
ML [10:32]:
Yeah nine. I think it's fantastic because then you know you really as a team when you're training together because I'm assuming you guys ski with each other and try to coach each other umm… like you really. You target the person it is like OK you're very likely to bring a lot of points if you just get that reverse back. So, we better learn it right?
AS
Yes. Yes. Our team captain this year, James where he's actually been doing great with just umm… teaching people what tricks to learn next or how to coaching them basically? We don't have a coach. We're all student umm… and it's really just us going out and saying OK we know this. This is what we have to learn next and figuring out where we can improve on our own.
ML [10:32]:
Yep, yeah. Now, of course and I think , I think it’s the challenge and the beauty about collegiate skiing right? Like the fact that your skiing with your friends who might also know a little bit more than you in some things. So, they help you skiing tricks while you might help them in slalom and you're taking classes with them. Some of you guys might be roommates. I think it's just the best 40 years that any, any skier can have in their life.
AS
Oh, yeah definitely becomes a family because we are traveling every weekend together living together on the weekends possible living together outside of that as well and then I think we always have ways having classes. So, we definitely get to know each other.
ML [12:06]:
Yeah, now off course. Umm… and one of the things I'm curious about is umm… of course it's a club sport and we should say that water skiing is not in Nancy double A recognized sport. But there are almost 100 universities nationwide. Like it's it's a pretty high numbers of universities that have a ski team.
AS
There are I believe the Midwest takes the trophy for how many teams they have in the region. There were definitely grants while we have had at least five teams reach out to our marker, our membership chair, our region's membership chair this year umm… just asking how they can get started and we're hoping to get out this year and next. So, It's definitely growing umm… but it has its, it has its own ups and downs for how they come in and how they leave?
ML [12:58]:
Yeah. So let's talk about the Dallas then what. What do you see? What do you see the model failing like what, Why aren't you know newer, newer teams like stay in NCSSAA. What do you think some of the fallacies are there?
AS
We have one actual new team, Wendy University in South Carolina. This is their second year I believe competing and we're talking last weekend just about how they can continue and their main problem is having a boat [Inaudible word at 13:28]. That is definitely one of the biggest costs to the sport and also college students do not have that much money as we're paying our own tuition and then having the liability of that as well.


ML [13:41]:
So, sorry there's no scholarships offered umm… by any of the team members at Clemson University.
AS
Not at Clemson we, we find that pretty well with the boats and we or the school does academic scholarships but there is none for any non NCWA sports.
ML [13:41]:
Ok. Perfect. Just wanted to make that clear because I know that there are some schools in the US where skiers are fortunate enough to get an academic scholarship or even some kind of like skiing related scholarship. Right
AS
Yeah. We have three of them in our region. So, we go from Maine all the way down to Florida. Umm… So, we have three of I think there is a six. Right now that still give scholarships umm… and one of our three is getting a little bit more picky. So, they're not giving out as many scholarships anymore.
ML [14:33]:
Yeah. Which obviously it's, it's an issue umm… in terms of recruitment. Right?
AS
It is. It makes it harder to get the out-of-state skiers. So, it kind of limits who comes in and what knowledge they have?
ML [14:48]:
Yes and yet you guys over the last three or four years have been able to improve tremendously like to the point that you have high scoring skiers and a very solid team. So, I'm curious to hear what do you attribute that to like how do you guys were able to attract better skiers over the last few years?
AS
There's no true formula for it. It just kind of happened to us. Thankfully meeting everyone IAWC women definitely help so always where your school here either you say we had a lot of our skiers up at the eastern and southern regionals this year and that definitely gathered some interest there. Umm… So, that I believe that's where it kind of helps that's where I met some of the first Clemson skiers before I came in ummm… and then it definitely evening, evening out the men's and women's team. They are getting a good equal balance, there's that we can feed off of each other and not ones not kind of lagging behind and to dragging down the score. But it's, it's really just publicity. You worth that you can. We have, we have events on campus at the school [Inaudible word at 16:08]. So just going to those and making sure that we're relevant on campus as well as in the already established Watters skiing community.
ML [16:14]:
Ok. ok. So, it sounds like both are really promote yourself in the ski community and then also make sure that the non-ski venues know about you indicates that you know someone might see that [Inaudible word at 16:29]. I used to ski, I like to ski,
AS
Yeah. Oh yeah and Clemson also has a really unique setup. I actually think we are one of the largest teenager’s clubs teams. However you want to categorize us in the nation because we have two parts of us. So, we have a club just like into any student within Clemson and they can go out on the boat with just a single driver who we certify Monday through Friday and up to sundown and that's just over 100 people and then in addition to that. Yeah, So, we, we manage a lot and like I said this is all a team like we have an advisor who helps us from the school end but we elect as officers other people who would take on that responsibility and in addition to those hundred we have. I think this year we broke forty people on our team on the roster at least not all of them travel but its definitely a lot of skiers get out on the water.
ML [17:27]:
Wow that's amazing. That's all that's big numbers.
AS
It is and that's partly what helps us grow because we know we have the revenue from the dues from boats and that is just being able to allocate what the school gives us versus what we make into travel expenses is definitely one of the largest and then all the maintenance for the boats.
ML [17:52]:
OK. So, I am assuming just to to get this clear what this school gives you meaning, you as a club apply for some kind of funding. You have to justify it in terms of hey we're traveling here for a tournament or we need this piece of equipment or is that is that where it is?
AS
Yes. So, typically in years past we would, we have a presentation every spring meeting up to that next fiscal year sorry fiscal year starts in July umm… this year they're actually backing it up. So, this fall we are applying for the 2020 and 2021 fiscal year. So, they're making us reject and further out we go in and present our budget to them. What we expect to make? What our expenses are expected? and our community service out of our whole involvement throughout the school and on a nation level is what helps determine what how much they're able to provide for us? and sadly we didn't have a new policy change so it's not as much as in years past umm…which does kind of threaten our growth but we're, we're working through that.
ML [19:04]:
Okay. Okay. Would you like to share how you guys are trying to deal with that?
AS
Yeah. So, up until this year we would get into that every year. So, as I said we had two aspects. We had the club and we always got a new equipment or and then we had the team and they would get the new team but and we would just alternate. So, now that would be more than two years old.
ML [19:25]:
Yeah.
AS
This year they cut our funding so we're getting less than 25 percent of what we used to get which means that we probably will not be getting a new boat unless we can really do a lot of fundraising and see where we can pull money from one saving grace is the one thing that isn't included in our budget funding. That was in the spring is nationals because you have to qualify for nationals to be able to go. So, we can't apply for any funding for that until we qualify after regionals. So, that's one thing that we can try to get a little bit more money back on and especially since it's in California this year and flights can get expensive.
ML [20:06]:
Yeah yeah yeah. I have fond memories of all those challenges and by the way do you guys have any single line that you're using to fund raise at the moment. Anything that we can promote here?
AS
We do we have it through our Facebook page just Clemson water ski team and we also have a Web site that's www. Clemsonwatersports.com. That's where our club goes to sign up for their, for their club sites to go out on the water and we have a little bit of information on how to contact us and how to donate on there as well?
ML [20:43]:
Fantastic. Yeah and I put this on the on the description and [Inaudible word at 20:46] so, that people can go there and hopefully chip in and help you guys out.
AS
It’s perfect, Thanks for help.
ML [20:53]:
Yeah of course. Ummm…Let me see because I know we have a few notes here. So, give me like again we have listeners that might not be aware they didn't leave the experience of collegiate skiing. Give me a sense of what a day in the life of a collegiate water skier looks like at Clemson?
AS
Alright Clemson. Obviously we have classes that we have to worry about too. So, most of us have their classes in the morning and afternoons are free or vice versa so that we at least have a block of time where we can go practice and then we just put out to our group chat saying “Hey who wants to go ski” We had two drivers who can we drive less. It's less than a mile from our campus to our docks.
ML [21:44]:
What?
AS
Yeah, we're right on. We're right on Lake Hartwell. So we are. Stadium overlooks the lake which is really awesome on game days.
ML [21:53]:
Wowww.
AS
Yeah. Definitely a different experience than those schools. So, we just goes the dots get our equipment out of our trailer. That is right there and travels with us every tournament. and if anyone wants to check back to the course it's about like a 15 minute boat drive. Ummm… Go back and ski and we could teach other drive each other we’re, we're just all about being with our team and be able to support each other as much as we can and then once we get back we usually have to go do some homework or just everyday life of getting groceries and not being behind on a on cleaning basically and trying to stay organized as we're on the road almost every weekend.
ML [22:36]:
Yeah and it's funny because obviously this is a audio podcast but we're on Skype and I can see you smiling as you talk about all these commitments. So I mean it seems to me like I had a chance to experience it as well. It's a much busier life than the regular college student I would say but it seems very rewarding.


AS
It's definitely rewarding with Nationals being the biggest of them all. This last year we were able to replace nine and I think our women's team had one of their highest placements of six just the last few years. But we also got a runner up for the Team Spirit Award and every year yeah every year we're known for our breakaway pants because we have a tradition that when it's men's trick day, they like to wear the orange vetoes and then we have the breakaway pants over top of them. So, it's kind of our signature at nationals so, that's our goal with a cherry on top. After being an officer for all year once we get to October it's like we just get to relax and see how far we've come between practice and tournaments and everything in between.
There’s other sport like football. They have the people to support them and do all the paperwork outside. But we do that on our own. So, in addition to going to compete we have to make sure that everything is covered.
ML [24:02]:
Yeah and that's no little responsibility because and I'll just mention things that come to mind but like gas for the boards, hotels, registration to tournament's who is in water stations therein and we even talk about that. You know like it's it's a lot of work and for all the skiers out there that take this responsibility and become officers and run the club like my hands off you know for your effort,
AS
It is and it is definitely something. No one person can take on alone. I feel as if all of our other officers we wouldn't have the fundraising for merchandise to do anything our PR chair has been doing amazing especially with our Instagram and just getting our name out there more and it's really everyone putting in a combined effort is no one person.
ML [24:55]:
Yeah, no that's I had a chance to see that's actually out. I found initially contacted you through your Instagram which is like I want to say I almost professionally designed like you guys are doing a great job there.
AS
Thank you that's all Kate So, then she uh she learned a bit from her roommate and then she became our PR person and this year and took over from that hotel who had just started the flow of figuring out how to make us look more professional and giving us a good face out there.
ML [25:27]:
Yeah I know. She's definitely doing a good job. [Inaudible word at 25:29] on her roommate. Ummm… Let's see.
So, I'd be curious to hear because you've been in collegiate skiing for a while and let's assume this is a very new podcast so I just have a sense of who might be listening but let's say there's some young skier out there. They're in high school they're considering collegiate skiing you know and what. Like let's say you had to sell them ok maybe not to Clemson University necessarily or though you're more than free to do that if you want but to sell them to collegiate skiing because I think a lot older people that go through way agree that it's like the best skiing time in their life. So, why is that?
AS
It's truly as we touched on before. It's it becomes their family. It becomes really you can rely on outside of school in skiing whatever you need that's going on in life. They're there with you. They're there for you. We had a lot of our skiers get injured this last weekend and not only our team but Alabama's team who is still there. Just because we are the two largest teams and you're on the team are the big team skiers or anyone who are able to make the top five. So, it just happened to be the two left and they they were very gracious and we're very thankful for them just being around and making those friendships. But no matter what level you are it's open to everyone. We have people who didn't even know how to swim and we taught them how to ski? Swimming first and then skiing.
ML [27:09]:
OK. OK. So, you kept the order. Alright.
AS
We kept them safe. We were like OK this ski float life estimate floats but we'll teach you some of the basics just in case anything happens.
ML [27:20]:
Right.
AS
And then just people who free ski they've come and learned it's open to anyone and it may be a little intimidating at first just because we are competing at nationals but it's surely the best place to learn because ever there's always going to be someone around your level who's going to be able to push you to reach that next that next brink.
ML [27:45]:
Yeah. No. That's I mean that's a very good selling speech. I mean you don't need to convince me if I could be eligible for just another fall I would do it. But I'm way too old and I've done them all so I'm fortunate I can I can't do that again. Let's see. Oh yeah. So you guys are getting ready for Nationals.

AS
We are.
ML [28:07]:
Any new recruits that came in this year that you're particularly stoked about.
AS
One of our main recruits coming in this year is Abby Skeen and she ended up actually connecting with a roommate who also skis. Grace Culver and the funny part it's the water skiing community is very small. She moved to the same area in Pennsylvania where I had moved way from just two years. So, we had two years in between one of us living there. There are two of our recruits that came in.
And it's gonna be interesting because they're gonna, Abby should be on our tricks team for the women's and Grace. She might be able to grab that for sport and tricks and is definitely competing for the last two slots and slalom. So, it definitely came a little bit more competitive this year and hopefully everyone is able to make it to nationals because that's the other thing about collegiate right. Because he's such a team event. Yes you put five skiers on the water per gender per event. But everyone kind of brings the points that they bring. So, like you it's super competitive and everyone is important. That's what I'm trying to say.
So death is super crucial right. Then who makes that fifth spot which also we should say you put face fears on the water. They take the top four but the fifth still gets on the on the run like on the on the final placement. Yeah. So everyone is important again.
AS
Yes. Oh yes and that definitely showed for us last year. I believe our fifth spot skiers at least I know for the guys team and I think for the majority of events for the girls team as well. Our fifth round skiers ended up counting for our team scores just because either we're all protected on Hartwell. So, a bit spoiled and it was a bit windy. So not the conditions that we're normally used to in some skiers just didn't have their best day because it's only the best that are competing that day. It's not like you get a second try.
ML [30:18]:
Yeah
AS
And so yeah that the people that we had slotted as their scores we're probably not going to count ended up counting towards our team score and our team overall placement.


ML [30:28]:
Yes. So you have that like you have sort of like you know you have to have everyone in the water being able to deliver because some sometimes you know things can happen and you may fall earlier than expected or you know wind conditions. But also I think what's cool is that that's probably like a guess level two of the strategizing. Your fifth score which you can't use for your points pushes down the fourth score of your competitor. You're sort of getting points in a negative sort of way right?
AS
Yes. Yes. Because you're still creating more space between them. Like in the placement overall.
ML [31:11]:
Yeah. And then I think one of the craziest thing about collegiate skiing I always remember and see to this day is that the point sort of many but the differences between teams are never that many, which is so crazy. So, like you get to last day which for Division 1 is women's tricks men's jump where the jumpers are going out knowing okay if I jump X then maybe we get 20 points that brings the whole team from displacement to a placement of all.
AS
It does. Yeah. And it's very interesting to see it change because in years past trick has definitely been our weakest event. So, it's like ok I usually go from farm to tricks jump nationals. It's a little bit more intermixed but seeing us go from slalom. Okay great. Tricks not so well jump. We know we can do good. But how good are we really going to do to bring this back up. So, it’s definitely interesting to see how it progresses throughout the weekend.
ML [32:13]:
Yeah. So it sounds and hearing that it sounds you guys took a step ahead because you were very excited about these new trickers coming in.
AS
Yes. our trick team well we usually only have like two maybe three good trickers for the guys and the girls. I would say our top four spots in for male and female are pretty well stacked and can beat out quite a few of the other schools members as well.
ML [32:42]:
That's good that's good. It looks like a big exciting year. Yeah. So, with that in mind what is the goal? if you like you guys have meetings you talk about it. What is the goal this year?


AS
We do. So the goal for our team is just very light is to have fun and be able to get another team spirit award and hopefully placement in the top eight again and that's more of the skiing side on are a little bit more paperwork side like everything that happens behind the scenes. We're hoping to just continue to grow and get our recruitment going as well as we can because we do have a lot of people graduating this year. This is my class so everyone who came in with me. We're out of eligibility this year which is kind of sad because we're all going to see each other graduating and move on. But we'll know we'll see each other at AWH tournament. But we want to make sure that we leave it the best that we can and so that we're leaving everything written down that the new people coming in, don't have to we learn our history and repeat that history so they can involve instead and that's where I think a lot of teams can, can really improve on because if you're re learning everything that the group before you just learned you're not growing and that's, that's what we want all our teams to grow as much as they can.
ML [34:09]:
Yeah yeah and I think that's very good advice. I think we are all on one hand we're very lucky to have people in every single collegiate ski team club this then like you know comes up and says OK you know I'll help out I'll take a leadership position and there's sometimes through the time like the knowledge is not passed down enough for negative reasons his mind just cause you are super busy that you you decide to do things right. So I think it's very good advice that you're giving. Like make sure that if you do have a leadership position that you are still passed down the knowledge so things can continue.
AS
Yes and for us that kind of a story back with one of our alumni. The Google Drive is amazing for us because that just gets passed down to each each officer. So it's like OK anything you want to know just go search for it and I'm sure you'll be able to find it on our drive.
ML [35:05]:
Yeah. So, you said both so you guys have a wake for boat ski boat. Do you use a branding particular. You guys are affiliated with a dealership. How do you guys manage that?
AS
Typically in the past because what's the new policy change some things have changed in our process but typically in the past it would just be the lowest bid. So, instead of like we are selling them instead of bidding any good goes up. Our dealers would submit bid and saying ok this is how much we're going to be able to compensate for the team. And we're very thankful for how much they have been able to give us off in the past as we have a Malibu dealer and now an all tick dealer that they just changed from that to not take this here right over and Seneca so not even 20 minutes from us a photo Inaudible at 35:55-35:57] how we work and they work with us amazingly it's JC sports from Malibu and water sports central for maltique. So, this year we have a mass prosthetics Inaudible at 36:11-36:15] and for our team boat and it usually rotates but always been as low as baby I'm going to control who we get. We just control our outline kind of our guidelines saying OK we need like this kind of motor, need to have such and such prop on it. We don't want backseats. We do want back seats kind of the add-ons that can either help sell a boat or may just not be worth it for our college team.
ML [36:44]:
Yeah. Yeah. So, you know no radio key cranking just bare minimum so that these guys can have a boat and do you have in white and orange. I have to say I have to ask.
AS
Yes we do have both of our boats are in orange which you would think are kind of hard to sell but in these past few years they they've been selling for a bit more than what we ever expected to get.
ML [37:11]:
There you go. There you go. Well I mean it might be that those callers by now represent you know your very successful team so people want to be part of it.
AS
Hopefully our team and our football team. I think the football kind of helps with that as well.
ML [37:25]:
Doesn't it, doesn't it? Yeah, I can see some hard-core you know fan of Clemson Tigers football team in their 50s. Ohhh…That's a nice wake we're both. Yeah I'll take it. You know.
AS
It doesn't matter the price. That's exactly who you want. Our goal audiences.
ML [37:42]:
Right. Ok. Ok. So, we see. Yeah I think we pretty much touched on you know on a lot of things. We love outpost and promote like ways for people to contribute to your team. Off course and I'm guessing to keep up with your tournament scores and everything they can follow your social media.
AS
Yes, Our Insta is definitely more active than our Facebook but they are both linked. So, both are going to be updated and then that feeds in directly to our Web site which one of our alumni part time we're very thankful for him working with us on it. So, no matter which one of the three that you go on he can find a link to be able to the most active first.
ML [38:28]:
Fantastic. Fantastic. Any final words something we did in Korver that you wanted people to know?
AS
If you can join collegiate. Go ahead and do it will be the best experience of your life and off course we want you to join Clemson. So, that’s on the top of your list.
ML [38:45]:
Okay. OK well as you know we talked before a little bit before this interview I'm a former raging Cajun so I want [Inaudible word at 38:52] my team here.
But yeah you should. You should definitely getting to collegiate skiing and then of course choose the university that is the best for you. That's always the advice I give you know.
AS
I have that skiing over your, over your education because colleges for your education and that's actually why I chose Clemson in which the skiing was just an add on.
ML [39:15]:
Ok. Ok. Well hopefully more people choose that as well and you guys continue to grow as much as you have to Ashley this was a true pleasure thank you so much for giving this interview.
AS I'm glad we could and get touch or touching base [Inaudible word at 39:32] and that backwards. But yes I'm glad we got to talk.
ML [39:35]:
Yeah same here. Same here. Speak to.
AS
Thank you, Thank you very much.